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In the past few months, a film by the name of Mario Twins has swept across the Internet with force. Found everywhere from message boards to prominent gaming sites such as NintendoWeb, Mario Twins is the latest in a stream of word-of-mouth sensations to explode on the Web. For the first time ever, creator Keith McKnight discusses the creation of Mario Twins with none other than

Who is Keith McKnight?

KEITH: Where to start... well, I'm a 15-year-old nerd from Pennsylvania. I spend a lot of time on the computer and I enjoy tacos from Taco Bell.

Where did you come up with the idea for Mario Twins?

KEITH: I was browsing an NES site. I think it may have been NESfan or something. I saw in the news that they found some weird Mario MP3 titled "Dave Matthews Band + Francois Rollin - NEW RARE - I DID IT.mp3" on Napster, so I checked it out. Needless to say it wasn't Dave Matthews Band, which is good because I don't like them anyway [laughs]. I thought it was hilarious so I decided to use my mediocre Flash skills to make a little music video for it. I didn't know at the time that Group X made it.

How long did it take you to create the Flash video?

KEITH: From the time I started to the time I finished, it was probably 3 or 4 months I guess. Of course, I only thought of it as a little thing to do when I wanted to pass time. It probably didn't take more than 24 hours of work altogether.

How did you get in touch with Group X?

KEITH: Group X, the creators of the song, had no idea that I had stumbled upon their song and was starting to make a video out of it with Flash so there was no collaboration. In fact, I was working entirely from the MP3 to make the movie. It wasn't until about a fifth of the way through the movie that I found out the true musicians behind Mario Twins. If you want to know how the script was put together, ask them, but I'm assuming it was done very late at night under the influence of illegal substances [smiles].

Could you describe the procedure behind creating the film?

KEITH: To make the film, I just imported the whole song into Flash and animated it bit by bit according to the song. I wanted drawings that looked like classic NES trash without being ripped directly from the game. I think I got the trashy looking part but a lot of people misinterpreted that as lack of skill. Poo on them. I tried really hard to sync the animation to the sound. It was basically done in chunks, which is why there's various copies floating around on the internet with varying degrees of completeness. I wasn't really too interested in finishing it until I realized that it was being circulated and people had no clue who made it. I originally just posted it at a message board I frequent. Towards the end I touched up some of the first scenes so they were more interesting and so that people would know that I was the author.

I submitted it to NewGrounds when it was almost finished. This was after two other people submitted it. One other person submitted it after me. Some people are slow [laughs]. Group X contacted me about it a few weeks after I was finished with it asking me to link to their site from the movie. I thought I had already done that, but it turned out that I only had their name in there so I linked their site in a few places and plugged their CD [laughs].

When was Mario Twins created? And were there other titles for the film you considered?

KEITH: I made it just a few months ago. Mario Twins was the only title I thought of. It was the only thing I really considered since that was the title of the original song.

Did you ever expect this little Flash film to become so incredibly popular?

KEITH: I figured it would get popular with all of the people who are amused by weird animations with funny songs - like with Animutation Center. I never expected it to get posted at so many places. Of course, once I realized how popular it was becoming I didn't feel any need to be modest about it.

“I say to them, ‘You want ice cream cone?’ Both of them say yes.” This line is a pure gem.

KEITH: That was such a great line. Group X thought up the entire script so I had no part in it. I expect to see people refer to this line many times until it becomes worn out and annoying... All Your Base.

Many people want to know how much money have you made from the film's success.

KEITH: None, but I'll take donations [smiles]. Hopefully Group X sold a bunch of CDs as a result of popularity from the Flash movie.

Any plans for a sequel? Possibly a Zelda film?

KEITH: If I find another weird funny MP3 then there could be a sequel. Some people think that I did make a Zelda movie. I have no clue what they're talking about, but I'd like to see it as well as find out how I was credited for it.

Have you created any other Flash films?

KEITH: I made a couple stupid Nintendo sprite-rip parodies and a short animation called "Yoshi Gets Drunk" using some weird music from Yoshi's Island when you touch that character Fuzzy with the bonus game music. I'm trying to clone the mini-game Gnat Attack from Mario Paint too. I also made some menus and whatnot for various sites I run.

Thank you very much for your time. Any closing comments?

KEITH: Buy the Group X CD. I'm not a member of Group X, just a fan. Mario Twins was a fan project, not a collaboration. Visit my Web sites: The Nifty Place-o-Hacks and SMB2 Worship. I think that's it. Thanks for the interview.

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